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Marriage poll, part 2
http://www.livejournal.com/users/griffen/667656.html
It's a major scam. They're removing votes that don't agree. We need help now more than ever - vote early, vote often. If someone's going to scam us, we need to show them who's boss.
http://peanut.sytes.net/marriagepoll.txt
Stats updated every five minutes. (If the file starts getting huge, I'll cut the top off and save it.)
Fastest google time ever, for me: crawler9.googlebot.com - - [17/Dec/2003:22:54:43 -0600] "GET /marriagepoll.txt HTTP/1.0" 200 2071 "-" "Mediapartners-Google/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
Apparently someone has been linking ;)
It's a major scam. They're removing votes that don't agree. We need help now more than ever - vote early, vote often. If someone's going to scam us, we need to show them who's boss.
http://peanut.sytes.net/marriagepoll.txt
Stats updated every five minutes. (If the file starts getting huge, I'll cut the top off and save it.)
Fastest google time ever, for me: crawler9.googlebot.com - - [17/Dec/2003:22:54:43 -0600] "GET /marriagepoll.txt HTTP/1.0" 200 2071 "-" "Mediapartners-Google/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
Apparently someone has been linking ;)
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That is really disgusting. God. The way people take out their own (sexual and general) insecurities out on society. Blah.
But good job with the number reporting. Beautiful :)
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(Anonymous) 2003-12-18 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)Ahhh, the cry of someone who simply can't believe that other people don't see their point or share their morals.
Alternative explanation: perhaps, despite how you and your friends feel, gay marriage is seen in a negative light by most people. I live in a fairly liberal state/community and recent poll results indicated that, at best, a slight majority of people interviewed were indifferent towards gay marriage, with the remaining people being negative.
Oftentimes people will say the politically correct thing in public (i.e. announce support for gay marriage) but do the opposite in the voting booth.
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I have no problem with losing a fair vote. I understand that a large number of people in this country feel that homosexual marriage is a wrong thing, as are civil unions that offer the same benefits. Personally, I disagree with those people, but that does not mean that they are not allowed to have those opinions.
However, by deleting votes, they are denying the rights of people to have those opijnions. By saying "your voice doesn't really matter" they're taking away the right to voice our opinions, then they plan to use these results as a voice in congress.
That is censoring, and it's certainly not a fair point.
Their explanation that the votes were removed because they were sent by a supporter who wrote a program to make them is a valid one - although personally, I'd like to see proof. However, they have since corrected the problems that allow for this kind of matching of the votes, so any further claims of that nature will be highly unbelievable.
I think the people voting have spoken for themselves.
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However, I still seriously doubt the figures for the numbers of votes against gay marriage.
My reasoning behind this is one of simple mathematics:
Yesterday afternoon, during the busiest time for voting, There were approximately 20-40 votes being placed for the first poll option, with 400-500 being placed for the second.
However, at 6am central time, the votes were still increasing by 400 - but half of them were coming from the first poll option. At the time this was taking place, only 600 users were listed as being on the AFA's website by their official counter on their homepage - meaning that every five minutes, 2/3s of the people on the site were voting.
Now, this might have been true at some other times, but I don't understand why the graph of the number of votes, if this poll is US only, is so wildly off from most internet usage world wide. To have higher statistics - by a factor of 10 - at 6am than at 4pm is almost unheard of.
I don't trust the results of the poll. I don't trust the people who are giving the poll. Unless the release all the information they have that allows them to claim that these votes are unique, I will continue to not trust them.
I do concede that the 3000 votes removed were most likely added by someone using a script, and I have no problem with that. However, I see the likelihood that this isn't being done on both sides of the issue as being relatively small.
The site has a vested interest in protecting its opinions. No site so biased can claim that the votes are fair, and unless I see full statistics (which I dont' expect - it would be invasion of privacy) I doubt I will place any faith in this poll, no matter which way the votes go.
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...you know, I'm just going to not think about this and resume blindly cheering for option two, although I somewhat doubt they'll be as willing to send the results to Congress now.
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http://www.livejournal.com/users/parables/72605.html (http://www.livejournal.com/users/parables/72605.html)
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